Auntie delivers the goods
04/06/2004 09:24 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
izmeinaOh happy day! Ickle Iz is utterly delighted. Auntie is not so evil after all and has finally posted the wickedly wonderful Quirky chat with Mr Curly
"Yes, Mr Curly is a part of me, for sure. If I had to describe him, I would say in retrospect I understand the curl, you know, this lovely folding outwards, this springy motion and of unfolding, and it’s rather tender, it’s a bit like the frond on a fern of course, and it sort of represents growth, and indeed I had a mathematician come to me at one point, and he said, ‘Oh, I see you understand the Fibonacci Sequence’, (is there a mathematician in the house?) but I think this is some description, some sort of mathematical description of the entire universe.
There is in fact a curl. Now I had to nod, ‘Yes, of course I understand it’. But so often it is, you know that you do things playfully and then lo and behold you’ve understood the universe. So there is Mr Curly and this desire to not go straight, not the logical path ahead, it’s sort of curling and unfolding and I delight in that. Perhaps my nature is full of curls....."
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They unleash the dogs of war and think they can call them back and make them sit, and come to heel. The dogs of war are out, and they go mad, and then that fool, John Howard, says, ‘Oh my goodness, they’re torturing people. We are disgusted, We are shocked and disgusted.’ And I think, No, that to me is foolishness, and it’s not an insult, it’s foolish to think that you can unleash a war and that you don’t lose control of it on Day 1.
War is not a science, it’s a madness, and it reverberates, it’s not what happens on the battlefield, it’s what happens generations and generations, it’s passed on and it transforms into other neuroses and psychoses forever. And what do they think they’re doing? I don’t get it, that they can talk about these tortured, poor unfortunates and yet the ones we didn’t see the photos of who lie under rubble and they’re children and they’re all manner of people, they’re human beings. That all seems to be OK. I don’t get it.
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Rachael Kohn: Do you ever feel compelled to send up or satirise or demonise terrorists?
Michael Leunig: No, I don’t.
Rachael Kohn: Why is that?
A cartoonist’s job is not to tell the world that the Devil is bad, the job is to ask you to consider the Devil in you, and in me. I can see no point in declaring that the Devil is bad and jumping up and down saying Oh, isn’t he wicked. What is gained from satirising a terrorist? Doesn’t the entire Establishment do that non-stop? But I’m interested in why does the terrorist be the terrorist? Are they just mad, or does their outrage arise from legitimate grievance somewhere?
Truly the straight line is the work of the devil.
"Yes, Mr Curly is a part of me, for sure. If I had to describe him, I would say in retrospect I understand the curl, you know, this lovely folding outwards, this springy motion and of unfolding, and it’s rather tender, it’s a bit like the frond on a fern of course, and it sort of represents growth, and indeed I had a mathematician come to me at one point, and he said, ‘Oh, I see you understand the Fibonacci Sequence’, (is there a mathematician in the house?) but I think this is some description, some sort of mathematical description of the entire universe.
There is in fact a curl. Now I had to nod, ‘Yes, of course I understand it’. But so often it is, you know that you do things playfully and then lo and behold you’ve understood the universe. So there is Mr Curly and this desire to not go straight, not the logical path ahead, it’s sort of curling and unfolding and I delight in that. Perhaps my nature is full of curls....."
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They unleash the dogs of war and think they can call them back and make them sit, and come to heel. The dogs of war are out, and they go mad, and then that fool, John Howard, says, ‘Oh my goodness, they’re torturing people. We are disgusted, We are shocked and disgusted.’ And I think, No, that to me is foolishness, and it’s not an insult, it’s foolish to think that you can unleash a war and that you don’t lose control of it on Day 1.
War is not a science, it’s a madness, and it reverberates, it’s not what happens on the battlefield, it’s what happens generations and generations, it’s passed on and it transforms into other neuroses and psychoses forever. And what do they think they’re doing? I don’t get it, that they can talk about these tortured, poor unfortunates and yet the ones we didn’t see the photos of who lie under rubble and they’re children and they’re all manner of people, they’re human beings. That all seems to be OK. I don’t get it.
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Rachael Kohn: Do you ever feel compelled to send up or satirise or demonise terrorists?
Michael Leunig: No, I don’t.
Rachael Kohn: Why is that?
A cartoonist’s job is not to tell the world that the Devil is bad, the job is to ask you to consider the Devil in you, and in me. I can see no point in declaring that the Devil is bad and jumping up and down saying Oh, isn’t he wicked. What is gained from satirising a terrorist? Doesn’t the entire Establishment do that non-stop? But I’m interested in why does the terrorist be the terrorist? Are they just mad, or does their outrage arise from legitimate grievance somewhere?
Truly the straight line is the work of the devil.
